How to Properly Use and Set Your Watch Winder

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Your automatic watch winder is an amazing marriage of beauty and precision, craftsmanship and functionality. It is a beautiful storage box and a prestige piece, while simultaneously working in a very deliberate and exact way to ensure that your automatic watch remains fully wound even when you are not wearing it. In addition, your automatic watch winder will actually pay for itself over time. This is due to the nature of automatic watches themselves. These timepieces must remain wound to function properly. If they stop, their lubricants cease to flow. In the long run, this can lead to a time-consuming and expensive factory overhaul of the timepiece. A much better solution is the one you have chosen: to use an automatic watch winder. Once you understand how this device works, you can make it a regular part of your routine. At that point, you will never experience the annoyance of placing your automatic watch on your wrist, only to find that it has stopped and you need to go through the tedious process of resetting all of its functions.

Chances are, you are unfamiliar with the ins and outs of how an automatic watch winder works. In simple terms, an automatic watch winder is a jewelry box equipped with a motor and a micro-processor that is responsible for rotating the watch in a prescribed way. All winders today are equipped with a security program that ensures that they can never over-wind a timepiece. Some models run only on AC power, while others give you the option of using batteries as well. You can even purchase winders that can accommodate as many as six automatic timepieces at one time, all with their own customized settings. Perhaps the most important concept you need to grasp about automatic watch winders is turns per day (TPD). Whether on your wrist or on the winder, your timepiece needs to be turned numerous times in a day. This happens effortlessly when a person is actively going through his day and more slowly if he is sedentary. The purpose of a watch winder is to simulate the motions of the human wrist by making a set number of TPD. The exact amount your particular timepiece needs will be specified by its manufacturer; therefore, it makes sense to check the user guide. However, as a general rule, most automatic watches need somewhere between 650 and 950 TPD.

Depending on your TPD setting, your watch winder will rest for a prescribed number of minutes between turns. In general, most winders will turn for anywhere from 30 seconds to a minute and then stop. Exactly how long the winder rests is determined by the TPD setting. For example, your watch might need to wind 10 times in 30 seconds. If it needs 650 TPD to function properly, the automatic winder would need to turn on 65 times per day. Since there are 1440 minutes in a day, you would divide 1440 by 65 and arrive at 22. That means the automatic winder will go through its full cycle every 22 minutes.

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Another variable is the direction of the turns your watch winder makes. These can be clockwise only, counter clockwise only and bi-directional. Again, your manufacturer’s specifications will be your most accurate guide as to what your timepiece responds to best. If you have several automatic watches and have purchased a winder that accommodates two or four timepieces simultaneously, it probably also contains an “auto-alternating” function that enables the mechanism to rotate in both directions automatically.

If you do not have access to your watch’s user guide for whatever reason or if you would just like to experiment, here are some more detailed tips that will help you set up your timepiece with your new automatic watch winder:

  1. Because your winder will not wind a watch that has totally stopped, begin by manually winding your watch by turning the crown 20 to 30 times.
  2. Carefully place your watch in the winder, making sure that it is fully seated in the holder. Then adjust TPD to its lowest setting and select bi-directional rotation mode.
  3. Turn the winder on. Over the next 48 hours or so, periodically check to see if the watch is still keeping accurate time. In general, automatics have approximately 40 hours of reserve from the time they have been wound. If the time is still correct after two days, this is the right setting for you and you don’t need to do any more experimenting.
  4. However, if the time is wrong, increase to the next TPD setting and repeat the above process.
  5. If the time is correct after two days, you have found the right setting.
  6. If the time is wrong, set the winder to rotate clockwise only and repeat the procedure.
  7. If the time is still correct after two days, this is your proper setting.
  8. If the time is incorrect, set it to rotate counter clockwise only and repeat the procedure.

As you can see, the initial procedure of synchronizing your automatic watch with your winder can be a bit tedious. It involves a certain amount of trial and error. However, once you get to know what your timepiece requires and how your winder can provide it with the full winding it needs, you will never have to guess again. If you begin to see that your watch runs better when it is on your wrist than it does on your winder, first make sure your TPD and directional settings have not been accidentally changed. If they are where they need to be, you might need to take your watch in for servicing. This is because the lubricants in a watch that does not work in its winder might be starting to congeal. Taking your watch to a reputable jeweler and potentially sending it back to the manufacturer are recommended in this case.

In general, however, your automatic watch is designed to furnish you with many years of faithful and accurate service. Using your automatic winder to ensure that your timepiece remains in operation at all times can help to maintain this performance. We’re sure you will enjoy the elegance and functionality of your automatic watch winder for a very long time.

146 responses to “How to Properly Use and Set Your Watch Winder”

  1. Dominic says:

    Finally, a complete tutorial on watch winding for the person without the factory specs to go by. This was tremendously helpful! Thanks!

  2. Leticia Roerig says:

    I purchased a watch winder via Amazon for my Rolex that, I did not know at the time of purchase, was pre-set to turn off for 20 minutes after winding, bi-directionally.

    As a result of it stopping for 20 minutes throughout the day, my Rolex was not keeping time. I would have to wind it each time I removed it from the winding box.

    Can you please suggest a watch winder that will not stop so often or one that I can set myself?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      First, I would check to make sure your winder is turning at least 650 turns per day and bidirectionally. If that does not work try bumping it up to 950 turns per day and see if that does it. Another problem could be the watch might need servicing if it has been over 5 years.

  3. Maria says:

    Hi I have a dual watch winder from stienhausen and I touched the setting without paying attention can you please help I don’t know how to set it for a Rolex

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I am not familiar with Stienhausen’s watch winder settings but the ideal setting for most Rolex movements is 650 turns per day bi-directional (alternating clockwise and counter clockwise). Please email us if you have any additional questions.

    • Jon J . spano Ltc(Ret), USAR says:

      All Rolex turn 650 TPD bi-Duectiinal. Being that there are 1440 seconds in a day if you device 1449 by 65 you get 22. So the timer must turn through its entire cycle every 22 minutes. Try it for 2 days in winder and if it is still correct time then you are good to go. If it is incorrect time you need to “ tejck” the GWU def for another 2 days and continue doing this until it keeps correct time for two days in winder.

      • buywatchwinders says:

        Sorry, I am not sure if you are stating or asking a question. Your calculation is assuming the winder spins 10 times every 22 minutes but the motor speed can be slower or longer than this so I am not sure what you are referring to. Please give me more information and I will try to help you further.

  4. Ronald Dodd says:

    Totally disagree with the above method to set your watch winder. One needs to set the winder to the minimum TPD that is required to keep your watch wound. I would suggest the following method.
    1, Establish the correct direction (or directions) needed first, this may need to be done by trial and error and could take several days of experimentation.
    2, Set the minimum TPD and the correct direction(s) and install your FULLY wound watch and switch on.
    3, After 40* hours in the winder remove the watch and lay to the side, note the time and date.
    4, After another 40 hours the watch has more than likely stopped, calculate how many hours it ran for after removal from the winder.
    5, If it continued to run for around 40* hours then the watch was fully wound when removed from the winder and therefore TPD setting is good. **
    6,If the watch stopped running after just say 20 hours then the watch was only half wound and you can adjust the TPD up a little.
    7, Repeat steps 2 to 7
    *40 hours is a typical time a fully wound watch may run, if you know the running time of your watch (or care to find out what that is first) then use your own number here.
    ** some cheap watch winders may not have a low enough TPD setting that suits your watch, you may need to consider this if your watch is fully wound after using the minimum TPD setting.

  5. Carl budgen says:

    I have bought a hublot chronograph watch and was wondering what setting on a watch winder should I put it

    Thanks carl

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Sorry for the late response, we were not notified about your comment. It depends on the exact model and movement but it looks like most Hublot’s require 650-800 turns per day bi-directional.

  6. Paul Nightingale says:

    I have an omega smp300 which is 800 tpd bidirectional. My wolf cub winder is 900 tpd. Will the watch be ok using that winder?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Yes it is safe to slightly overwind a watch because it has a built in clutch mechanism to prevent damage. Most of our winders have an 850 or 1050 per day setting which should be fine.

  7. Nickpipikios says:

    I have an iwc portofino 8 day manual watch. Is it safe to put that on a watch winder?

  8. Ramiro says:

    Is it wrong or bad to use a winder which has a minimum of 1440TPD on an Ulysse Nardin ?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      It is not wrong or bad to use a watch winder. It is a matter of convenience. If you are resetting your watch every time you wear it, it can also be bad for the watch. If you put it in the winder it will be ready to wear when you need it.

  9. kapmac says:

    What is the recommendation for the setting of a Rolex GMTII BLNR? I have mine set to 650 TPD Bidirectional, but it is losing time by a few seconds daily? Should I increase or decrease the TPD?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      All Rolex movements require 650-800 turns per day. If your winder was not turning enough turns per day you would lose 20 minutes or more per day. If you are losing seconds a day it is not because the winder. It means your watch needs to be serviced because it is no longer keeping accurate time.

  10. Keith says:

    I just purchased a Bulova-Futuro 98A203 model # and I can’t find what to set my watch winder to. Any help?

  11. Mike Centerline Tile says:

    I Just purchased a Panerai Luminor 1950 3 day GMT with a 72 hour power reserve , How many TPD per day do you suggest

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Some Panerai Luminor GMT’s require 650-800 bi-directional and some require 800 clockwise only. If you give me the specific model number or the movements name I can give you which one it is or you can try both settings and see which one works.

  12. Mike Centerline Tile says:

    I have a panerai luminor 1950 3 day Gmt power reserve what do you suggest i set the TBD for

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Some Panerai Luminor GMT’s require 650-800 bi-directional and some require 800 clockwise only. If you give me the specific model number or the movements name I can give you which one it is or you can try both settings and see which one works.

  13. Brandon L Beck says:

    buywatchwinders,

    I’ve been using, successfully, a two-watch Songmics winder for some time now for my Fossil watches. A month ago I replaced one of my watches with a new one, and this one slides and slips around it’s cushion even though it seems secure when I place it on and then in the box. Consequently, the watch doesn’t wind effectively, and it scrapes against the box.

    Do you have advice or suggestions to help?

    Also, I have realized after visiting here today that I don’t have the ability to select directions or TPD. So, thank you for your resource. I’ll be looking at Fossil specs and then for a more appropriate box.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I am not sure why it would slip and slide if it is in securely. If it is scraping, it might mean the watch is too tall for your winder so you may need to get a winder with larger clearance for bigger watches. Sorry, I can not be of more help but I am not familiar with that brand of watch winder.

  14. Jan says:

    I have a Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Control Date. What do you suggest I set the TBD for?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      The correct setting is counter-clockwise 950 turns per day. It can be plus or minus 100 turns per day and should be fine.

  15. Monica says:

    I have a Cartier Ballon Automatic. Can you please help me with the direction and terns required. Thank you.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Most Cartier Ballon’s are Clockwise 650-800 turns per day. The 42mm one is bi-directional at 650 turns per day.

  16. Nicholas Klopsis says:

    Can you tell me if Cartier pasha is clockwise or counterclockwise
    And what tpd would you suggest

    • buywatchwinders says:

      It really depends on the movement inside. Pashas are made with many different movements. Generally, it is Bi-directional or CW 650-850 turns per day. If bi-directional does not work, try clockwise.

  17. Kelly Paul says:

    Hi all! I have a Citizen 21j automatic Auto Dater model number 2802. Wasn’t running (paid $8.00 for it). Put it in my winder for 10 hrs at 650. It runs fine when lying flat but on my wrist not so much. Is it not wound enough? Thanks,Kelly

    • buywatchwinders says:

      A watch winder will never wind a dead watch. A watch winder is designed to maintain the current level of winding in the watch but not wind a dead watch. If the watch does not run on your wrist and it needs to be serviced before trying to wind it on a watch winder. Most likely the internal components are broken and need to be replaced.

  18. David L says:

    This is a very useful site. What TPD / direction setting would you recommend for a vintage (1977) Seiko 6309 7040 Diver? Thanks in anticipation.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I would try 650-950 bi-directional, if it does not work keep going higher. A watch winder can not wind a dead watch. The model you have can not be manually wound so it would need to be worn or wound by shaking before putting in the watch winder. Here is a youtube video showing how to wind the watch by hand. https://youtu.be/cG1mr_vFzsM

  19. Pablo says:

    it’s that okay/safe if my winder bi directional only but my watch manual saying uni directional(clockwise only)?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      It should be fine but not recommended since it may put stress on your watch that is not necessary. If the watch is designed to rotate in one direction, there is no benefit to rotating the other way.

  20. Alex says:

    Can you recommend settings for two vintage watches: Omega Automatic Chronometer Constellation (1974) and Girard Perregaux Gyromatic (9520KF) I think this watch is circa 1980s. Thanks.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      The Omega Constellation really depends on which movement number you have but it is either bi-directional 650-850 or clockwise 650-850 per day. The Girard Perregaux Gyromatic, I do not know, but I would start bi-directional at 650 and go up until the watch keeps time for over 40 hours consecutively. Also since your watches are vintage, I would recommend getting them serviced to make sure everything is in working order if it will not wind or gains/loses time.

  21. Aleksandr markhoff says:

    I have a watch with an Asian 2813 movement. What is thr correct TPD setting for the winder?

    Thanks.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Sorry I am not familiar with this movement but I would suggest starting at 650 bi-directional and if the time is not correct after 40 hours try the next highest setting.

  22. Hieu says:

    I have a rolex datejust new model 2019 , Can you tell me if rolex dajust is clockwise or counterclockwise
    And what tpd would you suggest?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Rolex Datejust should be 650 turns per day bi-directional. If it does not keep time after 40 hours, try the next highest turns per day. Please make sure the watch is wound before placing in the winder. Watch winders are meant to maintain the time but not wind a dead watch.

  23. Michael Rende says:

    I think my watch winder turns too much. I have a Rolex Datejust that was purchased 20 years ago. It was just serviced because it stopped working. The watch winder I have turns 2 min and rests 6 min. It rotates 8 times per min. My calculations are 2,880 TPD. Is this right?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Yes, the calculation is correct. Your Rolex only needs about 650-850 turns per day. This is a common problem with many watch winders on the market so please be careful of the watch winders you purchase. Many companies do not actually test or know what the watches require before manufacturing the watch winder.

      • robert chestney says:

        I bought the same watch winder – 2880 TBD – for my Rolex Datejust. I know it only needs 650-800 TBD, but will I be harming my Rolex by leaving it at 2880?
        I thought it couldn’t be overwound.
        Thx

        • buywatchwinders says:

          You will probably need to service the watch sooner if you wind it that much. The watch has a safety mechanism in it to prevent overwinding but it is not good to constantly overwind it and will cause some type of failure eventually.

  24. Balazs Fustos says:

    I have a Panerai Luminor Chrono Flyback PAM00524 2016. Can you tell me if Panerai Flyback is clockwise or counterclockwise or both,
    And what TPD would you suggest?
    One more question: What is TBD? I saw many in the TPD column.For example TBD instead of 600-850 turn per day…

    • buywatchwinders says:

      The movement in your watch is a Panerai in house movement called the P.9100. It requires bi-directional rotation. I would recommend starting at 650 turns per day and increase it only if it does not stay wound. TBD = To Be Determined. Watch winding is not an exact science because it really depends on how much the watch is wound before putting it in the winder and how long it will not be worn. I recommend starting at the lowest turns per day and after 3 days if the time is still correct that is the setting you should use.

  25. Craig Hardy says:

    I just purchased a Tissot Coturier Powermatic 80. How should I set my watch winder?

  26. Cheryl Revett says:

    I have a Longines Grand Vitesse movement L667.2 it’s in a watch winder on 650tpd clockwise but looses time is this the correct setting

    • buywatchwinders says:

      With that model, you need at least 800 turns per day clockwise only. I would set it to the closest setting over 800 and clockwise only and try again.

  27. ZJ says:

    Hello, I have 2 watches for now. An IWC IW377714 and a Panerai Pam1321.. What is the recommended watch winder setting? Currently looking to purchase an Wolf Watch winder and stumble across 2 model.. 1 with option to adjust its turns per day while another model is pre set at 900 turns per day.. Will too much TPD be harmful for the watch?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      It really depends on the movement inside. Both companies have different movements even in the same series of the watch. I would start at 800 TPD clockwise and switch to bi-directional if it does not work. The Panerai you have has a power reserve so you should be able to see if it is working or not. I recommend setting it to where the power reserve hand remains constant. I would never recommend a winder that only has one speed.

  28. Nick Ide says:

    I have a Seiko 6020 movement. Can you recommend TPD and direction settings for my
    winder? Thanks in advance for your help.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Sorry I am not familiar with this model. Searching for Seiko 6020 says it is a quartz watch. Can you give more details on what model you have?

  29. Ethan says:

    Hi,
    I have the 2018 Santos de Cartier auto watch (MC 1847 movement).
    Could you please advise on the TPD settings for this watch?
    Thanks.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      This is a new movement from Cartier that I do not have the information on. The rotor on the movement is bi-directional so I would start around 650 and move up until it keeps time for 48 hours. Please turn the crown 30-40 times to make sure it is fully wound before putting it in the winder.

  30. Bob says:

    I have a Ming 17.03 and a Montblanc Heritage Chronometrie Quantieme Complet Vasco de Gama. Can you advise on TPD settings for each

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Sorry I am not familiar with those watches. My suggestion is to start at 650 turns per day bi-directional and move up higher until it works. If the setting that works is really high, like 1200+ turns per day, I would try doing it again using clockwise only rotation and if that doesn’t work try counterclockwise.

  31. Dan says:

    Hi, I have a SUPEROCEAN HERITAGE II CHRONOGRAPH 44 and am finding conflicting information on direction and TPD. Stoping into a store today, they advised 700 TPD clockwise while sites recommend bidirectional @ 650 TPD. I have a Heiden with settings at 650 TPD and 900 TPD.

    Any idea what the ideal setting it? Thanks!

    • buywatchwinders says:

      The reason you are getting conflicting information is because that model comes in many different movements. Based on the link you sent, it looks like the movement in your watch is a Breitling 13 which requires 800 TPD clockwise. I would recommend setting it to 950 turns per day clockwise.

  32. Lil Timmy says:

    Suggestions on TPD for a tag Carrera, Frederique constant Healy, Zenith defy classic and a bremont Mach 3 please. Thanks

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Theses are generic recommendations because there are multiple types of each watch you listed.
      Tag Carrera – 650 TPD bi-directional, if it’s a chrono model I would do 800+ or more
      Frederique Constant Healy – 650 TPD bi-directional, if it’s a chrono model I would do clockwise only 800+ or more
      Zenith Defy Classic – 650 TPD bi-directional
      Bremont Mach 3 – Not sure on this one but based on other models I would say 650 TPD bi-directional OR 800 TPD clockwise

  33. Ian says:

    I have a tissot moto gp limited edition 2019.
    What TPD and direction settings should i use. Thank you for you help.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      This is a difficult watch because they use different movements in different years. Do you know the movement that they used in this model? The setting should be 800 clockwise or 800 counterclockwise so you can try both and see which one keeps time.

  34. Mike says:

    Hi I am really struggling located the correct watcher winder settings for a Rado Captain Cook automatic watch (ref: R32505313).

    I assume it would be bi-directional but unclear on TPD?

    Their official site is offering a watcher winder that does over 2,000 TPD (which they claim is ideal) but sounds far too much.

    Do you happen to know the correct settings?

    Thanks

    • buywatchwinders says:

      It is very difficult because the manufacturer does not give details on what movement is in the watch. It looks like most Rado watches are 650-800 bi-directional so I would start there.

  35. Marlene says:

    My husband has a bulova oceanographer watch that we just purchased for Xmas 2019 can you tell me what the watch winder settings should be for this watch.
    Thank you

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Most Bulova are 650 turns per day bi-directional. If your watch is chronograph or has a Valjoux movement, I would try 800 turns per day clockwise.

  36. Paul says:

    I have 3 automatic watches, all of which require 650 bi-directional TPD. The winder I am considering has variable speed settings, 2 of which are 600 and 900. Will 600 be too few and 900 too many; I would not wish to damage the watches?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I would try 600 to see if that keeps them wound. If it does not, go to 900. All your automatic watches have a clutch mechanism to prevent overwinding. Hitting the clutch excessively is not good for the watch but it should not be that big of a problem with an extra 250 turns per day.

  37. mike says:

    What would an Oris watch need? My dad just bought a watch winder for his Oris watch.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Oris can be 650 bi-directional or 800 clockwise only. I would try 650 bi-directional first then 800 clockwise if it doesn’t work.

  38. Ed says:

    I have 2 watches… Tag Link Automatic Chronograph and Breitling Bentley 6.75. I believe the Tag is clockwise only and the Breitling is bi-directional. Will have the winder set to bi-directional hurt my Tag?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      It should not hurt the watch but you should use a watch winder that has individual settings per watch. The tag will also need double the turns per day which may overwind the Breitling. Modern watches have clutches to prevent overwinding so being a little over on the TPD will not hurt the watch. It is also not good to be constantly hitting the clutch which will cause the watch to need service prematurely. You have a lot invested in the watches so I recommend using the proper watch winder for the job.

  39. Sir Gonzalez says:

    i have a 2-year-old Tudor North Flag with a 70-hour power reserve. it has a power reserve indicator dial, a bidirectional rotor and requires 800-900 TPD according to my AD. i set my winder to 850 TPD bidirectional but after about 2 days, the power reserve indicator decreased. so i increased the winder setting to 1000 TPD bidirectional, but still, the power reserve indicator decreased while in the winder after about 2 days. the watch still keeps accurate time, but these observations tell me the watch does not stay fully wound in the winder with these settings. when i discussed this with my AD, he apologized and meant 800-900 TPD in EACH direction, so 1600-1800 TOTAL TPD (since it has a 70-power reserve; 40-hour power reserves require 650-750 total TPD). my next winder setting goes up from 1000 to 1950, which seems excessive…or is it given its 70-hour power reserve?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Since you have a power reserve indicator, I would keep moving the TPD up until it maintains it’s power reserve. It is not harmful until you hit the max power reserve and then keep winding it. The goal of a watch winder is to maintain time until the next time you wear it, not max it out to full power every time. My personal advice would be to figure out how often you wear the watch and run it on lower turns per day. For instance, if you only wear the watch on weekends then set it so it will last for 5 days on the winder without going to zero power. If you wear it once every few weeks then find the setting that will maintain the time for that long. If you wear the watch less than this, I would just recommend leaving it in a regular watch box face up.

  40. Scott says:

    Hello! I’ve been trying to find winder settings for a Hamilton Air Race (Date, not Chrono) with an H-10 movement. Do you know the direction and TPD? I’ve found one table that shows the H-30 setting is CW 800, but I’m not sure it’s accurate or if the H-10 would be the same. Thank you!

    • buywatchwinders says:

      A Hamilton Air Race with a 2893-1 movement should be 650 bi-directional but I do not have any data on an h10 movement. I would try using our generic directions of starting at 650 bi-directional and moving up until it keeps time. You can also do the same with clockwise only if you suspect it is clockwise only.

  41. Ray Stolz says:

    So I own a Patek 5205g which requires 900 tpd and be wound ccw I bought a wolf heritage which meets both those specifications. My watch was winding correctly for 6-7 hours and then stopped it’s revolutions. Is that because it reached 900 and will begin again at some point. Or is it a malfunction. Thank you

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Please contact Wolf to see what their rest and start periods are. It has been a few years since we have carried the brand so I am not familiar with how it functions.

  42. Steve says:

    Longines Conquest GMT settings? Thanks

  43. Marc G says:

    What would the correct setting be for a Hamilton Intra Matic Auto-Chrono with the H-31?

  44. Chanraksmeyrong Cheng says:

    The setting for thiis zinvo watch please ? … I bought wolf watch winder for the display… but i still try to get the setting right… please help.

    https://zinvowatches.com/collections/men/products/blade-fusion

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Sorry I do not know this watches movement and the watch maker does not give many details about the movement. I would start with bi-directional and keep moving up then TPD. If it doesn’t work then try clockwise, then counterclockwise.

  45. John wadie says:

    I’m really confused….looking for a winder but confused about a bi directional movement and TPD. Mine is 650 bi directional but I’ve been told that’s 650 turns in each direction so total of 1300. Is that correct??

    • buywatchwinders says:

      All manufacturers are different so you will have to ask them. For Heiden and Versa winders, 650 means total, 325 in each direction.

  46. Bo Ekelund says:

    I just bought a Rolex Yacht-Master 16623 Steel/Gold Blue Dial. It is preowned from 2015.
    It is Mint condition….. no wear scratches at all.
    I am a professional drummer and use both hands in my work, so my watch will be turned.
    Will it be turned too much?
    Does Rolex only make watches for certain kind of jobs, so it will be turned enough…….???
    I don´t think so. Their watches are made for being used and turned many hours per day or very few hours per day or no hours at all.
    Rolex HQ in Geneva does not recommend any watch winders. Have a friend working there.
    Please explain why I would need a watch winder.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      The watch has protection built-in so you can not turn it too much. If you regularly service the watch, it will be fine. This might also be a great question for your friend that works at Rolex.

      A watch winder is for convenience and to make sure it is always ready to wear. A normal automatic watch only lasts at most 40 hours when fully wound. If you do not wear your watch every day or have more than one watch, the next time you go to wear the watch, most likely, the time and date will be wrong. You will have to pull the crown and wind it manually while setting the date and time. If you have a moon phase watch this is an even more daunting task. This also causes unnecessary wear to the watches crown. If it is a screw-down crown for a waterproof watch, the threads sometimes get worn off or cross-threaded and the crown stems get bent. These are both expensive and common repairs. So you can have the convenience of always having the right time and ready to wear and also prevent some common wear and tear. A watch winder provides these conveniences for you.

  47. Will says:

    Can you recommend a Watch winder for a Rolex Datejust. I’ve looked at the Wolf Heritage but that turns at 900 and the recommended turns for my Rolex is 650.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Any watch winder we carry will do 650 turns per day bi-directional. Also the Wolf Heritage winder I believe will do 1800 turns per day when set to bi-directional.

      • Gregg M Ichimura says:

        I am in the same situation with my 1st watch winder. If the Wolf Winder is set at 900 TPD how do you get the 650 recommended TPD for a Rolex? Or get it to stop at 650 is maybe the better question? To a newbie, sounds like 900 may be problematic (not to mention 1800) when we are looking for 650. over winding is a problem, right?

        • buywatchwinders says:

          Modern automatic watches have built-in protection from overwinding in the form of a clutch that slips when it is fully wound. It is never good to wind a watch more than necessary or to hit this clutch constantly. I believe Wolf only has one TPD setting. Please contact Wolf directly for more information.

  48. Kieran Lindley says:

    Hi

    I currently have a Rado Centrix R30156152 and a Tag calibre 16. I would like a double watch winder but don’t know what to go for. The Tag is C/W 800TPD and I don’t know what the rado needs. Any advice would be great.

    Thanks

  49. Greg Smith says:

    I have a Breitling Navitimer 41 that calls for both direction at 800. My winder has 650, 950, 1250 & 1650. Should I set it at 650 or go to the 950?

  50. Manny says:

    i have Wolf Heritage double, about 3 year old. one of the spinners is not able to start rotating on its own. once i set it in motion it works fine for a couple of hours.

    what do you suggest ?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      You should contact Wolf to replace the motors. It means the brushes on your motor are worn out increasing the resistance it takes to start turning.

  51. Billy says:

    My watch is bi-directional winding
    what would happened if I had only turned one direction over and over?

  52. Larry Goldman says:

    Greetings…I have an older Longines Hydra conquest with a brookstone winder…looking for the correct settings. Thx in advance.

  53. Eric says:

    I have a Breitling Navitimer World. The recommended TPD is 800 CW, but closest settings my winder offers is 785 or 950. Any advise on if I should go lower or higher than the recommended TPD? Thanks!

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I would try 785, it might be close enough. If your watch will not keep time I would move it to the next setting. If you wear your watch once a week or more you should be fine.

  54. PeterA says:

    Hello,
    I have a PANERAI Power Reserve that calls for
    for TPD 800 CW. I have a winder that has only one setting for CW at 1400. Is this a problem for my watch. Could this damage the movement by over winding?

    Thanks for your help.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I would not use a watch winder that turns that many times per day. With a power reserve, you can see where the watch is in terms of power and if it shows 100% all the time I would not use it. The job of a watch winder is to maintain your power level not make it hit 100% constantly. It may be ok for short periods of time but long term it will cause your clutch mechanism to wear and need service faster than usual.

  55. Anthony Mendez says:

    Hi, I purchased the new Heiden Nova single watch winder from you. My watch requires 650 Bidirectional, if I set the digital setting to 650 Bidirectional, will it turn 325 clockwise then 325 counterclockwise or 650 each way? Thanks

  56. Anthony Mendez says:

    Hi, one more question, do you know if Wolf watch winder s work the same as far as the TPD? If I set a Wolf winder for 650 TPD Bidirectional, would it turn 325 each way or 650 each way? Thanks

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I am not familiar with how the current Wolf’s work because we no longer sell them. Please contact Wolf directly for support.

  57. Sam says:

    Longines Elegant collection watch winding settings please?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I am sorry but I do not have the exact settings for your watch but most Longines are 650 bi-directional or 800 clockwise so I would start there.

  58. Freddy Q says:

    Can you tell me what settings I should use for my Ball Roadmaster Starlight COSC? The manual suggests clockwise at the “lowest settting” but most of what I’ve seen online suggests that bi-directional would work better.

    • buywatchwinders says:

      It depends on the movement in the watch which I can not find but Ball should be 650 bi-directional or 800 clockwise.

  59. Larry c. says:

    I have purchased a stuhrlinger model 906.
    I can not find TPD and which direction for my Wolf Winder
    Can you help ,as Struhrling customer service does not respond

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I am sorry I do not have any information on this watch. Please use the guide in this article to find the correct setting by trial and error.

  60. Vincent says:

    Hello! I got a Certina DS-1 Powermatic 80 Big Date. From what I understand, it’s supposed to be 650TPD bi-directional, is this right? I’ve found that it has stopped two times on the winder thus far so I will try 900TPD, although the weird thing is that when I just moved the watch out from winder, the watch started running again, without me winding it or even wearing it. Kind of feels like the watch had just stopped running despite being wound so maybe it is defect?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Some DS-1 models also used a clockwise only movement also so I would try 800 clockwise. Watch winders are a very smooth mechanism and some movements that have not been serviced do get stuck. The act of taking them out of the winder or wearing them is sometimes enough to jolt the movement back into action. This is a common problem so I would consider getting the watch serviced.

  61. Steve says:

    What is the tpd for a seiko bellmatic and direction?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I do not have a specific setting for this watch but I would try bi-directional 650-950 per day, if that doesn’t work try clockwise.

  62. Steve says:

    And the same (tpd and direction) for a Rolex air king?

  63. Bill Mann says:

    My Breitling requires a TPD of 650 and is bidirectional. I wish to put it on my winder only at night as it does not get enough activity during my normal day. The night period is from 8 to 9 hours. Should I adjust the TPD to accommodate this shorten period, and if so, to what settings?
    Thanks,

    • buywatchwinders says:

      I would only change settings if your watch stops and has the incorrect time the next day. For this kind of issue, there is no correct setting, you just have to increase or decrease and see where the balance point is.

  64. EWaade says:

    I have bought a Patel Philippe 3940J (1995) which requires 800 TPD CCW. My current winder has 750, 1000, 1300 and 1600 TPD – bidirectional only. You would recommend buying a new winder? What model?

    • buywatchwinders says:

      You can run it at 1600 turns per day and it will give you 800 CCW but I would recommend just getting a new winder since running this was will ear out the watch and the winder eventually. I do not have a specific recommendation since that depends on your tastes but every winder we carry should be able CCW only and I would set it to the closest setting to 800 which will probably be 950 for most models we carry. If you want to set exact turns per day, we have a new model called the Heiden Nova which can set any TPD you want.

  65. John says:

    Hi there , have just bought a grand seiko hi beat, the shop i bought it from also gave me a watch winder which I thought would be very useful. The thing is that it does not have a tpd setting, it does have bi directional which is what the GS requires . When I checked the tpd of the winder, it does 12.5 rotations right over a time of 2 minutes. Pause for 6 minutes then 12.5 rotations left for 2 minutes. This gives 150 tpd per hour, which means 3600 tpd per day. Only 650 tpd per day is needed. So can I assume that I can turn the wider on for 4hours a day to meet the requirements, or am I totally wrong. The nature of my work only allows me to where the watch on a weekend. Or should I just look for a winder with a definite 650 tpd setting. I look forward to hearing from you.
    Regards
    John

    • buywatchwinders says:

      The object of a watch winder is to keep the mainspring in a constant state which will allow the mainspring to last longer. If you left your winder plugged in, your watch would be hitting its max wind and the clutch would keep slipping to prevent damage to the watch. If you only set it to run 4 hours a day, you would be letting watch wind down and then wind back up shortening the life of the spring. The best way to wind is in shorter intervals so with your winder I would leave it on for 16 minutes an hour and it would come close but I would personally just get a proper watch winder.

  66. Les Sawford says:

    What winder would you recommend
    I have a Breitling Navitimer A23322 and an ocean master also a Rolex perpetual oyster .

  67. Karen ashley says:

    Hi I have a Chanel j12 index white automatic watch that seems to keep good time on my wrist but lost 5 mins when left on my wolf mini cub winder that rotates at 900 tpd and is bidirectional for approx 3 weeks… can you advise why?
    My husband has a hublot classic fusion aerofusion 45mm and I need to know which winder to buy for it. What speed and direction does it need. Both watches are just under 2 years old. Thank you

    • buywatchwinders says:

      Losing anything over 5 minutes a month indicates the watch needs service. If you wore the watch for 3 weeks, it should have the same discrepancy. Many times when a watch begins to need service it will start gaining or losing time. If there is truly a discrepancy when worn versus being in the winder it would be because a winder’s movements are very smooth and when worn it is a very jerky motion which can make watches that would not run on a winder start working on your wrist.

      The Hublot is 650-800 turns per day bi-directional for most models. If that does not work, I would try CW only 800 turns per day.

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